Hot Start Car Won’t Start? ECU Issues and Troubleshooting

Experiencing difficulty starting your car after it’s been running and is still warm, often referred to as a “hot start” problem, can be frustrating. If you’re suspecting your ECU (Engine Control Unit) might be the culprit, you’re on the right track to investigate a potentially complex issue. Let’s delve into the common causes behind a hot start problem, especially when considering aftermarket ECUs, and how to diagnose them effectively.

One potential issue, often mistakenly blamed for hot start problems, is fuel pressure loss after the car is parked. While fuel pressure issues can cause starting problems, they usually manifest differently. If fuel pressure is bleeding off while parked due to leaky injectors, a faulty fuel pump check valve, a leaky fuel pressure regulator, or fuel line leaks, you’ll typically experience a prolonged crank or a rough start, especially on the first start after a longer period of inactivity. However, by the second attempt, the fuel pump usually re-primes the system, and the car starts, although it might run roughly for a few seconds until the fuel mixture stabilizes.

To accurately check for fuel pressure loss, the most reliable method is using a fuel pressure gauge connected to the fuel filter discharge port. With the correct fitting, you can power up the car to prime the fuel pump (without starting the engine) and observe the pressure build-up to factory specifications. After turning the car off, carefully monitor the pressure gauge. Ideally, the pressure should hold steady, just slightly below the factory spec. A rapid pressure drop after the pump shuts off indicates a leak within the fuel system. If injectors are in good condition and the fuel pump is relatively new, the fuel pressure regulator might be the suspect.

However, fuel pressure loss isn’t exclusively a “hot” problem; it can occur at any temperature. Therefore, if your car consistently struggles to start only when hot, and persistent cranking doesn’t solve the issue, it’s less likely to be solely a fuel pressure problem. Instead, you should consider a hot start fuel mixture problem.

Is this hot start issue a recent development, or has it been a persistent problem since you acquired the car? This distinction is crucial. If it’s a recent change, checking the operating fuel pressures during a hot start attempt is a sensible first step. Equally important is to examine the engine coolant temperature sensor parameters. A faulty coolant temperature sensor can send incorrect readings to the ECU, leading to an improper fuel mixture when the engine is warm. With an OEM ECU, you could typically use a service check connector to trigger error code displays, which could pinpoint issues with temperature sensors.

If you were using a factory OEM ECU and encountered a hot start failure, a useful troubleshooting technique is to attempt a “flood clear” start. This involves fully depressing the throttle pedal while cranking the engine. Flood clear mode is designed to lean out the fuel mixture in case of engine flooding. If this method works, and the engine starts within 3-7 seconds of cranking, it suggests a rich fuel mixture problem during hot starts. Cranking beyond 7 seconds is generally unproductive and just puts unnecessary wear on your starter motor.

However, you mentioned using a Spoon ECU, which deviates from the OEM setup. The nature of this ECU is vital to understanding the problem. Is the Spoon ECU a modified OEM unit (chipped), or a fully programmable aftermarket ECU? If it’s a chipped OEM ECU, it should retain the factory start-up parameters and flood clear functionality. In this case, trying the flood clear start is still a valid diagnostic step. If it works, then the issue might still be related to a rich mixture, potentially due to sensor readings or a slight misconfiguration carried over from the OEM parameters.

If the Spoon ECU is a completely user-configurable aftermarket ECU, the situation becomes more complex. It might have a flood clear mode, but its functionality depends on how it was configured. If you have access to the configuration software for the Spoon ECU, examining the hot start parameters is essential. If the hot start problem has been present since the ECU installation, a configuration issue is highly probable. Incorrect fueling parameters for hot starts within the ECU programming could be the root cause.

Therefore, your diagnostic process should begin by ruling out fuel pressure loss as the primary issue by performing a pressure test. Following that, gathering more details about the Spoon ECU – its type and configuration capabilities – is critical to guide further troubleshooting steps, which may involve checking sensor readings and ECU programming parameters.

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